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   Baier.  (2013) New.  

    January 11, 2013
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i'm proud of him. proud he made it in to a good college. i think he will do well. but keep that in mind. it goes by very, very fast. if you are in a position to do it, go to every one of their games or every thing they do in school. they appreciate it. you appreciate it. but the memories are going to last for you when they're not there anymore. >> dana: proud moment for parents, too. you got him to the point he is going to college. i remember my mom cried when she left me. i was sad for a minute then i was like okay, let's get this party started. what time is my first class? >> bob: did they cry when you left? >> andrea: yes, they were down one waitress. >> eric: good luck. alex beckel, good luck. great kid. great school. don't forget the rollins pub is fantastic on the golf course. >> kimberly: throw bolling's name. >> eric: all you need. >> dana: not in class. that is it for "the five." >> eric: a big weekend in
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football. championship weekend. >> dana: go broncos. >> bret: go broncos. ♪ ♪ >> bret: game over. vice president biden wraps up the task force focusing on video games, as a grass roots movement for second amendment rights grows across the country. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. the vice president effort to reduce gun violence focused today on what some believe is the big cause. violent video games. that put all kind of weapons in the virtual hands of impressionable people. fox team coverage tonight. chief political correspondent carl cameron looks at how the talk of gun control is playing in a country that loves guns. but we begin with white house correspondent wendell goler with the connection between the games people play and the
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things people do. good evening, wendell. >> going. early next week, vice president biden will give the president recommendations on how to prevent incidents like the newtown school massacre. with time running out there is little agreement about what to do. >> a day after talks with the gun owner groups that produced a little meeting of the mind, vice president biden met with video game makers though the expectation seemed equally low. >> there is no silver bullet. no seat belt that you can put on to assure that you will not be in this circumstance again. >> biden said it's not clear that violent video games are part of the pron, the most violent are often the best sellers. newtown tragedy seized the administration with the desire to do something or some things even if they don't solve the entire problem. >> i never have quite seen anything as shocked the conscious of the american people like six and 7-year-old kids riddled with bullets in
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classroom, neighborhood, in an area that was considered to be immune to this behavior. >> still, biden spent almost all his time talking about the diverse range of groups he met with and little about the specific proposals. he says there is a lot of research and material in his words "lying around." on fox news channel "america live" nra lobbyists chris cox said the vice president wasn't interested in listening in thursday's meeting. >> gun control has been a failed experiment. let's look at mental health. look at the violent culture. let's look at things that can really address the underlying problem and then we can makebe a difference in the kid's lives. >> cox said mental health record should be part of the gun buyer background check. though the newtown tragedy was a result of unstable man with access to his mother's guns. quentin tarantino wrote and director "kill bill" and "pulp fiction" and jango unchained"
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refused to talk about the issue saying, "it's none of your business what i think about that." the nra has a ban on high capacity magazines sailing that, too, is missing the problem. >> we had a gun ban for a decade. even bill clinton's justice department said it had no impact. >> one of vice president's biden few specific suggestions he admitted was impractical. >> for example, every gun purchased can only be fired by the person who purchased it. literally would be unable to fire. the technology exists but it's expensive. >> so expensive no one expects that biden will recommend it to the president tuesday. but he will make recommendations he said even if he doesn't feel like they will completely solve the problem. >> wendell goler live in the north lawn. thank you. >> how is this playing outside the washington beltway? there may be no other issue that generates more response than the issue of gun rights than gun control. chief political correspondent
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cameron says both sides are preparing for the legislative battle ahead. >> guns and ammo fly out the door at gun show and shows nationwide as the gun summit wraps up this week at the white house. >> record-setting sales to say the least, actual-to-wall every day. people are just scared. that they are not going to be able to buy them. they have been on the fence about getting them. they have now decided now the time to do it. >> background check for gun purchases hit record 2.78 million. and record 19.5 million for 2012. the white house wants to eliminate any and all loopholes requiring background checks on every sale and restrict high capacity ammo magazines. even the gun industry see merit in that. >> i would agree with the live capacity magazines. >> in the last 20 days, the national rifle association says 100,000 people joined the organization in part out of fear of new gun restrictions. officials exist the current 4.2 million membership to
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balloon to 5 million in this debate. january 19 has been designated the national gun appreciation day that want people to rally with signs saying hands off my guns. gun right groups were active last year. nra donated $20 million to pro-gun candidate and causes. by contract, gun control contributed less than any time in the last 20 years. combined tote is $4,000 of political candidate on their side of the issue. white house trying to level the playing field organizing gun control grass root, tapping religious leader, labor and community leaders for rally and town hall likebe few blown campaign. the groups started by bloomberg. the group new ad has mother of a child killed in historically infamous ram page two years ago. >> my 9-year-old daughter was murdered in the tucson shooting. i have one question for the
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political leaders. when will you find the courage to stand up to the gun lobby. >> former congresswoman gabrielle giffords was the primary target of that attack and was nearly killed. now she established a political action committee to hope the raise $20 million to try to catch up to the pro-gun side superior financing. and gun friendly grass roots. >> thank you. >> bret: american guns are supposed to go silent in afghanistan at the end of nextbe year. now the timetable is moving up. leaders got together at the white house. national security correspondent jennifer griffin has the story. >> the first face to face meeting between barack obama and hamid karzai since last may when mr. obama committed to remaining in afghanistan after the end of combat operations in 2014. that commitment by the white house appeared to wane recently with the president's national security team telling the pentagon to send them recommendations that would
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involve no more than 9,000 troops. and leaking on the eve of karzai's arrival that the white house was considering a zero option. >> starting this spring, our troops will have a different mission. training, advising, assisting afghan forces. >> today hi announced it would transition ahead of schedule. plans that worry many in the pentagon as the president weighs how many troops to leave behind. the theory of zero troop option leaving no behind was a bluff to ensure they would grant immunity after 2014. >> nowhere do we have security agreement with country without immunity for the troops. i think president karzai
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understands that. >> we understand that the issue is specific importance for the united states. >> the quid pro quo is karzai will return to afghanistan with the promise that the afghan prisons will return to afghan sovereignty and pull out of the afghan vil lanels this spring. president diverted attention from those asking whether 11 years of war were worth it. who helped repel largest and most vicious attacks on eastern afghanistan in 2009. taliban will be given a seat at table and allowed to open an office in qatar. the taliban must first renounce terrorism. >> bret: we talked about what the troop number will be at the end of 2014. what is the going thinking on that. what about the concern about
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protecting those troops if the number is very low? >> well, absolutely. what we have confirmed is general john allen, the top commanderrer in afghanistan given the national security team around the president three options. 9,000 option, 6,000 option. and 3,000 option. the president will likely decide on 3,000 to 6,000 troops and that will not give you much option in terms of the training and assisting the afghanistan security forces. they will set up bases to deal with al-qaeda if fringe area along the border. >> bret: we'll follow it. jennifer griffin at the pentagon. thank you. do you think the president should speed up the process of having afghan take control of the security? let me know on twitter. to me at bret baier. the politics, west virginia senator rockefeller will not seek a sixth term. the leader of the
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congressional delegation tells fox he is interested in the job. we learn the "state of the union" address is tuesday february 12, on lincoln's birthday. stocks were mixed today. the dow gained 17. s&p 500 was down a fraction. the nasdaq was up four. democratic state legislator wants her colleagues to take away the freedoms of conservatives and libertarians. we'll tell you where and why later in the grapevine. up next, it's official. the flu outbreak is now an epidemic. victor! victor!
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like people with liver disease or women who are nursing, pregnant or may become pregnant. tell your doctor about other medicines yore taking. ll your doctoright away if you have muscle pain or weakness, feel unusually tired, have loss of appetite, upper belly pain, dark urine or yellowing of skin or eyes. these could be signs of rare but serious side effects. ♪ is your cholesterol at goal? talk to youdoctor about crestor. [ femalannouncer ] if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. >> bret: fox news alert. nation's flu outbreak is an epidemic. center for disease control and prevention says influenza is widespread in 47 states.
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we have fox team coverage. rick leventhal in allentown, pennsylvania, where they are dealing with 22 deaths statewide. we begin with jonathan serrie in atlanta, where the cdc released the information. >> some are using the term "epidemic" the cdc avoids the term because each flu season is by nature an epidemic. while it remanes unclear how long this flu season will last and how severe it will become, the federal health officials insist it's not too late for americans to protect themselves. >> 47 states with widespread flu activity, cdc announced potential silver lining. flu cases are declining in some region, especially in the south which went to this season's flu season earlier than norm. epidemiologists won't know how accurate the data are until we move further from the holidays. >> a lot of clinics are closed
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and a lot of people don't go to the doctor or only go when they are sick. je to think about that when we look at the data. in a week or two, post holidays the data will smooth out a little bit to understand more about what is happening. >> the major flu virus is h3n2. it struck early in past years and often hitting hard. news report and stories from ant sick prompted in hold-out to get the last-minutebe flu shot. >> we are seeing across the nation, increased volume. people seek out the flu vaccine. those are sick to be seen as well. doing our best to meet demands of the population in the state. >> with report of spotty shortages of the vaccine, public health officials advise patients to call ahead and shop around for medical providers with ample supplies. those receiving this season's vaccine are 62% less likely to see the doctor with the flu symptoms. >> it's not perfect yet but we
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don't want to wait for perfecto get that in the way of doing good now by using the vaccine. >> vaccination is the single best way of reducing chances to get the flu. it's not too late to get the shot. flu season could be with us for many weeks ahead. bret? >> bret: jonathan, thank you. let's continue the week-long look at how the flu is handled in specific areas. tonight, senior correspondent rick leventhal is in allentown, pennsylvania. >> stretcher, cot. chairs for family members. >> this is the mobile surge tent at lehigh valley hospital cedar crest set up to hand the dozens of extra people showing up at the emergency room every day with symptoms of the flu. >> the capacity was overwhelming. not only were patients seen but the patients needing a bed to be admitted. this was an attempt to decrease those who are otherwise healthy. milder flu symptoms. we can see them, treat them
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and discharge them. effectively and efficiently from the tent. >> in pennsylvania, officials are not calling at it flu epidemic but say the virus is widespread. the r the number of cases are rising. 4300 in the last week alone. 18 of 22 confirmed deaths. >> we haven't reached a peak yet. we don't know when that will be. the peak may be the end of january, it may be sometime in february. all we see with the numbers the numbers continue to rise. >> health officials encourage everyone who isn't sick to get the flu vaccine. the impact is already felt. this girl says the class is half empty. >> we could don't anything we were miss something many kids. i have a singing recital coming up. if i get sick or the flu, i won't be able to do it. >> this is what we are asking all the patients to put on if they have flu like symptoms. and our healthcare workers. >> medical staff have been vaccinated and they are doing their best to hand the surge but most people don't need to
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visit hospital and should stay in bed. >> if they're sick don't come to work. don't go to the mall. don't go to school. don't hang out with your friends. if you're sick stay home. cough in your sleeve, cough in your arm. use tissue shoes and try to decrease the amount of exposure to other people. >> another warning. very old and very young and anyone with preexisting conditions are most vulnerable to the flu. if you have chest pains or shortness of breath or the condition is worse, doctors say you should seek medical attention. rick? >> thank you. arts and crafts giant hobby lobby found a way to delay providing insurance coverage for emergency contraceptive. they maintain the requirement under obamacare violate religious relief of founders and says it will shift the plan year for employee health insurance to delay the effective date by several months. while it pursues a lawsuit. still ahead -- the environment is not good for outgoing epa chief lisa
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>> bret: wildfires in australia top international news. it's summer down under and fighting fires there are difficult. 95 are burning in new south wales with 18 out of control. new rights for women in saudi arabia. king granted women 30 seats on the top advisory council for the first time. a big step in a country where women's lives are heavily
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restricted. women are not allowed to travel, work, marry or even be admitted to a public hospital without permission from a male guardian. former u.n. ambassador bill richardson says he delivered a letter for imprisoned american to north korean officials. richardson and google chairman eric submit were in the communist nation on a private trip last week. 44-year-old kenneth bay has been detained since late last year. he is charge charged with unsped crimes. richardson says he was told judicial proceedings would start soon. back in this country, bumpy ride for the newest thing in commercial aviation. the government is going to take a close look at problems on the industry latest big money innovation. correspondent dan springer has details from seattle. >> we are concerned about recent events involving boeing 787. >> a boeing 787 taxiing toward
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the gate this morning. the flight unaffected by the rash of mechanical failures it's endured. hours earlier in washington, d.c., major announcement. >> we are conducting a comprehensive review of the design and production of the boeing 787. this review will cover the critical systems of the aircraft including design, manufacturerring and assembly. >> the review triggered by series of recent electrical problems. the most serious in boston monday when a battery overheated and caught fire. after a flight from japan. >> the fuel efficient dreamliner generates much more power on board than any other passenger jet. and is the first to rely on rechargeable lithium batteries for auxiliary power. they will examine the entire electrical system. and the jets will continue to fly in the review. >> nothing in data we have seen to suggest that the airplane is not safe.
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what we want to ensure is what we have is a comprehensive look at the in-service issue we have seen. >> stakes are high for the seattle based boeing. largest plane maker in the u.s. and one of the biggest exporter. they invested billions in the dream liner and under the best case scenario still years away from breaking even. >> our view is get reliability of the airplane up to the standard that we have set and we initially sold the airplanes and we are very close to doing that. >> boeing's first customer has been flying them for a year with success. the company's chairman on the san jose flight this morning told reporter he is had not spoken to the faa but he believes the plane is safe. review like this is rare. aviation analyst in seattle says the last one he can remember was in 1979. there results will be critical
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to boeing and 175,000 employees. of course, the flying public. bret? >> bret: dan springer live in seattle. thank you. one democrat from the live free or die state says freedoms of the small government advocates should be restricted. some blue language for green energy advocate al gore from his employees at current tv. my wife takes centrum silver. i've been on the fence about it. then i read an article about a study that looked at the long term health benefits of taking multivitamins. they used centrum silver for the study... so i guess my wife was right. [ male announcer ] centrum. always your most complete.
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>> bret: now fresh pickings
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from the political grapevine. in the friday followup, al gore soon to be ex-employs with harsh language for their boss. we told you the green energy advocate is telling the cable station to al-jazeera funded by the oil-rich country of qatar. how did the staff of current tv take the news? well, not so well. the "new york post" reports the meeting was heated. and there was a notable absence. al gore himself. one high-placed staffer griped "of course al didn't show up. he has no credibility. current never even took big oil advertising. al gore, that -- expletive -- sells to the emir." another "al was always lecturing us about green. he kept his word about green all right. as in cold, hard cash." "forbes" magazine estimates gore will be worth $300 million after the sale goes through. that is more than mitt romney.
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new hampshire state legislator says she wants to restrict the freedoms of conservatives and libertarians. breitbart.com reports cynthia chase urging small government advocates called free stateers from taking over new hampshire politics and writes free stateers are the single biggest threat the state is facing today. what we can do is to make the environment here so unwelcoming that some will choose not to come. and some may actually leave. one way is to pass measures that will restrict the freedoms that they think they will find here. finally, notorious pirate says he is calling it quits. this isn't the captain hook or black beard variety. the somali pirate known as "big mouth" who reportedly earned millions of dollars from commo commandeering ships,d not give a reason for retiring but asking others to join him
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in retiring. decrease hijacking in the indian sea down from five in 2012. down from 47 in 2010. we told awe about the absence of minorities and women in the president's latest personnel moves but one is leaving under a cloud. chief washington correspondent james rose within the controversy over the outgoing head of the epa. >> you know her as lisa jackson, head of the environment patrol text agency stepping town after four-year tenure that saw frequent clashes with the house republicans. >> but the environmentalists regard as hugely successful. >> she negotiated landmark accord with auto makers to double gas mile knowledge ten years. >> some knew her as richard windsor, what she used on thousands of e-mails she sent and received in private account. with epa.gov suffix on it
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where she said she conducted official business. subject of a probe and lawsuit by conservative think tank that used the freedom of information act to secure access to 12,000 e-mails the first 3,000 of which will be unsealed monday. i know the obvious impact which is apparent to them when they created this. you are frustrating the federal recordkeeping. disclosure laws. >> others at the epa, some who could be chosen to be succeed jackson used dummy republicans on the house energy and commerce committee expects whoever gets the job, the agency that spends in excess of $5 billion a year enforcing the rules promel gates will be a flash point as obama heads to second term. >> intransigent to commitm of what you regard as the
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enfrenched environmental left. >> house is threatening to subpoena the epa for more information about the water testing that the agency is conducting near a site where mining operation is proposed in bris tall bay, alaska d bristol bay, alaska. >> bret: politics and the policy. the fox all-stars react when we come back. [ female announcer ] need help keeping your digestive balance? try the #1 gastroenterologist recommended probiotic. align. align naturally helps maintain digestive balance. ♪ ooh, baby, can i do for you today? ♪ try align today.
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responsible afghan government that is willing to cooperate with to us make sure it's not launching pad for future attacks against the united states? we have achieved that goal. in the process of achieving that goal. >> bret: president obama meeting with hamid karzai at the white house. speeding the drawdown of u.s. troops and transfer of the responsibility for afghan troops. changing the mission by the spring to a support role for u.s. troops. asked about the number of troops on the ground after 2014, president eric karros saicaris --karzai said this. >> numbers won't make a difference to the administration in afghanistan. >> so what about this? politics and policy? bring in the panel. jonah goldberg of national
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review online. kirsten powers for daily beast. syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. jonah, what you heard today, what came out of it? >> i don't what we heard will make compilation of great speeches by american president. it's hard to imagine anyone pumping their fist in the air, human endeavor and we didn't accomplish anything. but that said, this is -- this is base lick, this is afgha afghannization. like vietnamization to the vietnam war. we have been watching it roll out for a couple of years now. the supporters of the policy say there is no support for the war. that's true. obama made zero effort to build support for war in afghanistan.
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i heard karzai on c-span talk aboutbe in 2014 tourists want to come to afghanistan. i am being to taken that bet. >> bret: yeah. might be a longshot. >> bret: one thing talked about is u.s. troops getting immunity as security agreement worked out post-2014. status enforces agreement, the agreement they will work out. one thing that jennifer griffin reported zero troops after 2014 is a bluff by the white house to force karzai's hand to agree to immunity for troops that would be left on the ground after that time. that is not what happened with iraq. that deal did not get signed. that is why the troops left when they did. >> right. >> it seems like there will be a signed deal this time. >> yeah. it seems like there will be troops, some residual force kept there, which is fine. the reason obama hasn't made a good case for gans is there is
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no good case for afghanistan. we should have left quite some time ago. it doesn't mean we didn't go there with good intentions or there weren't bad people that needed be overthrown but not a successful war. the fact we still have people over there that are going to die for a mission that obama just basekly told us we're really not achieving. we don't have -- our goal wasn't just to have a stable relationship with afghanistan. i mean, our goal was to, you know, eradicate the taliban. we are far from that. so i think that to me i'm disappointed that we continue to have more than 60,000 troops in that country. >> bret: charles? >> obama was careful to define the role as merely blunting or decimating al-qaeda. if that is the case the goal was achieved in six months. obviously, the surge that he ordered was meant for something much largeer. the fact is that it's sort of
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today was acknowledgment that the surge failed. and we're leaving. the question is whether what do you leave behind? the most important element in this decision is that we want to use afghanistan as a base not for afghanistan itself, which doesn't really matter. but for pakistan. it's the northern part of pakistan. waziristan, which is where the new homeland is of terrorist is who would attack the american homeland. i think what the objective would be is to have a small number of bases, small number of soldiers from which you could direct the trone attacks or special forces. remember, in the raid to kill bin laden, launching area was from afghanistan. and if we hadn't had afghanistan as the base from which we could launch, we'd have to do it by aircraft carrier or other means. it seems we should be infinitely more difficult. that is a strategic objective
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today. whether obama will be able to negotiate it, i don't know. but he did not succeed negotiating something similar in iraq. >> bret: the taliban is a big question about what happens after 2014. a lot of talk that we have had around this table over the years, 11 of them, has been about the taliban has a tempt calendar than we do. they operate in decades and centuries, while the u.s. has a different calendar here locally. today, karzai said there is a new effort underway to recognize tal taliban. >> we agree on lobbying the taliban office in qatar, in doha. where the taliban will engage in direct talks with the representatives of the afghan high council for peace. where we will be seeking the
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help of relevantbe countrys including pakistan. >> bret: pakistan is the real question here, jonah. how that country fits in the equation.
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[ brief pause in captioning ] >> it used to have anger toward taliban. the one pushing the most for women's rights in afghanistan. that's how i feel. we could stay in afghanistan and destroy them. i would be fully on board. the problem is we have been there for a decade and we have not been able to eradicate them. >> bret: pakistan? >> had the image of taliban. i think pakistan is the key. it is not going to act in a moral way. lack of the national interest. it will control the taliban. it's not going to be independent. it will will have a huge influence. perhaps it looks for partition that northern element and
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capital are under control of the northern alliance and the south is the taliban. taliban. it's interest in keeping out external influence, india. it's not invested in a complete collapse of the karzai. our role is to have a deal where pakistan is ahead of the influence and understand that it is divided. or what happens coalition, the government would work in afghanistan. >> bret: next up, friday lightning round. ÷÷
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>> bret: there you see the preparation underway. that was a bit ago. as the inauguration is just around the corner.
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just outside the white house. of course, it will be a big event. with all of the celebrations that surround the second inauguration for president obama. every week, viewers vote for your choice online. and this the friday lightning round. this week, inauguration corporate donations won 4% of the votes. back with the panel. at one point, corporate donations were off-limits for this deal. now they are on. charles? >> off-limits if it's your first inaugural and you have to run again. on limits if it's the second and you don't care. this is with everything that obama is doing domestic and foreign. he no longer has to show the pretense so he can dispense with the niceties. >> bret: kirsten? >> i'm torn on this one. you don't want the government paying for it. so i guess the preference is corporations pay for it. or you can cancel it.
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those are sort of your options. if i have to choose one of those i'll go with the corporate donors. i don't know what else you're supposed to do. it's better than having the taxpayers pay for it. >> corporate donor, you owe them. that's the problem. >> i think that is what the whole system is based on. unfortunately. that's why we need campaign finance reform. the way it is now, you are sort of already receiving money from corporations, right? you're now saying corporations aren't allowed to give money to the campaign? >> i'm saying when you give, you will one day receive. >> corporations aren't allowed to give campaign. it's against the law for 80 years. look, i don't really care about this, except for hypocrisy angle. this guy campaigned vociferously about getting corporate money out. granted waivers likcandy. to lobbyists that get in there. it's just one of the last cards to be flipped on the hypocrisy on this. i would like to see him go up there with a nascar suits like
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this is brought to you by after lec and exxon-mobil -- by aflec and commo exxon-mobil. >> bret: second topic. take a look at gun shop owners and gun shows, people going to gun shows about the activity out there. >> what i noticed is no assault weapon whatsoever. any ar type of guns. anything like that. i mean two weeks ago, they were there. now they're not. people are buying them all. >> it's pretty hard to get ammo. a lot of calibers and guns. and magazines, because of the hype and everybody is worried about what is going to come out on the gun laws. >> so, as this task force continues and the vice president comes out with recommendations, jonah it's pretty unprecedented what is happening out there for buying. it's also unprecedented this grass roots effort that is
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apparently building ahead of january 19. gun appreciation day. >> there is no chance of any serious gun control legislation coming out of congress. half of the members of congress have an "a" rating from the nra. harry reid is not going to pushbe through legislation on gun control. it's just not going to happen. but it's astanding so quick -- astounding so quickly after newtown the conventionm wisdom is this is an opening out of gun control. >> i would never expect congress to do anything on gun control. it's because they are all button fold by the nra or they live in fear of nra dropping money in their district to defeat them. >> also their constituents like gun rights. that part of it, too. >> not always. i don't think most of the people, i don't think people in the country think we shouldn't have some basic gun laws. that the nra opposes like the slightest change or slightest protection. >> charles?
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>> well, we heard biden on a clip we had earlier say that newtown was inflection point, moment where the climate change. it wasn't. what is astonishing is the backlash against the attempt of the antigun people to use the moment to pass restrictive legislation. the increase in nra membership. huge explosion of sales. it shows we a country different from the others in the west. and that if there is ever going to be a change it will take generations. it won't happen by legislation. it's not going to happen in the near term. >> bret: all right. winners and losers down row here. >> losers were roger clemens. barry bonds. who were the best, arguably the best hit and pitcher of their time. shut out of the hall of fame. humiliating fashion. they got less than half the vote necessary. that's because they were juicers. winner, i would say the image of the u.s. government in hollywood. three films nominated for
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academy awards. "lincoln," "argo" and "zero dark thirty." i feel like governor perry. >> the winner is the intolerant left for successfully getting the person who is going to give benediction, pastor named louie giglio, mainstream, evangelical pastor. leader in the antislavery movement. he was forced to bow out because he gave a sermon 20 years ago against homosexuality. and orthodox believer of any kind, muslim, christian or jewish you are not allowed to be part of the -- >> loser picking up on what charles said. bigelow was the best director of the year and denied because she had a pro-government, pro-c.i.a., allegedly
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